Minter Dialogue with Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo

Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo are the co-founders of the Science and Non-Duality (SAND) not-for-profit community. At SAND, they like to explore the big questions of life while celebrating the mystery of being. Zaya and Maurizio are also filmmakers and their last film, The Wisdom of Trauma, featuring Dr Gabor Maté, has been a runaway success. In the conversation, we talk about the making of this film, we explore the definition of success, and the timeliness of this film. We also look at their use of social media and the other films (especially The Art of Life) they’ve produced.

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About success: “There could be a longing for more [success]. The longing is kind of the perfume of success.”

– Zaya Benazzo

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Music credit: The jingle at the beginning of the show is courtesy of my friend, Pierre Journel, author of the Guitar Channel. And, the new sign-off music is “A Convinced Man,” a song I co-wrote and recorded with Stephanie Singer back in the late 1980s (please excuse the quality of the sound!).

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