Minter Dialogue with Shelley Onderdonk and Adam Snow

Dr Shelley Onderdonk and Adam Snow are a couple who’ve spent their lives playing, rearing and taking care of sport horses. Shelley is a sport horse veterinarian, renowned among other things for being a pioneer in veterinary acupuncture. The success of her sport medicine principles is evidenced by the multitude of Best Playing Pony awards which their barn have accrued over the years, as well as by the longevity of their horses’ careers. Shelley gives lectures and seminars on her equine wellness philosophy and is the coauthor of The Anti-Cookbook. Shelley’s husband, Adam Snow, was my roommate at university. Adam played polo professionally for well over 30 years, achieving the highest rating of 10 goals in 2003. Career highlights include winning two US Open titles, competing in the Argentine Open in 1998 and 2004, winning many Best Playing Pony prizes for his horses, and twice being named Player of the Year. He was inducted into the Polo Hall of Fame in 2014. Retired from tournament polo, he now gives back to the sport via coaching, mentoring, writing, as well as announcing polo games for television. The excuse to get these two exceptional beings on my show is the new release of their brand new book, published by Trafalgar Square, “Winning with Horses: How One of the Best American Polo Players of All Time and a Sport Horse Veterinarian Balance Human Goals with Equine Needs.” I note that this is actually the second book they’ve co-written together. We discuss many of the fascinating learnings they’ve developed, living around horses, working as a team, applying a holistic approach to rearing, riding and playing polo on horses. There are many deep life lessons within.

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Music credit: The jingle at the beginning of the show is courtesy of my friend, Pierre Journel, author of the Guitar Channel. And, the new sign-off music is “A Convinced Man,” a song I co-wrote and recorded with Stephanie Singer back in the late 1980s (please excuse the quality of the sound!).

Minter Dial

Minter Dial is an international professional speaker, author & consultant on Leadership, Branding and Transformation. After a successful international career at L’Oréal, Minter Dial returned to his entrepreneurial roots and has spent the last twelve years helping senior management teams and Boards to adapt to the new exigencies of the digitally enhanced marketplace. He has worked with world-class organisations to help activate their brand strategies, and figure out how best to integrate new technologies, digital tools, devices and platforms. Above all, Minter works to catalyse a change in mindset and dial up transformation. Minter received his BA in Trilingual Literature from Yale University (1987) and gained his MBA at INSEAD, Fontainebleau (1993). He’s author of four award-winning books, including Heartificial Empathy, Putting Heart into Business and Artificial Intelligence (2nd edition) (2023); You Lead, How Being Yourself Makes You A Better Leader (Kogan Page 2021); co-author of Futureproof, How To Get Your Business Ready For The Next Disruption (Pearson 2017); and author of The Last Ring Home (Myndset Press 2016), a book and documentary film, both of which have won awards and critical acclaim.

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