Minter Dialogue with Jamie Wheal

Jamie Wheal is polymath and coauthor with Steven Kotler of the global best-seller and Pulitzer Prize-nominated “Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, Navy SEALs and Maverick Scientists are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work.: He is founder of the Flow Genome Project, an international organization dedicated to the research and training of ultimate human performance. Now he’s just published his latest book, “Recapture the Rapture, Rethinking God, Sex and Death in a World That’s Lost its Mind.” In this conversation, we dive into Jamie’s journey, the value of sports, his Flow Genome Project and what took him to write these last two powerhouse books. We specifically look at some of his core concepts including around Ecstasy, Catharsis and Communitas, society’s apprehension of death and psychedelics and much more.You’ll find all the show notes on Please consider to drop in your rating and don’t forget to subscribe to catch all of the future episodes.

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